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Microsoft Stack

Douglas Tarr Entrepreneur and Software Architect

December 21st, 2012

John -

Have you actually experienced "money people" who won\'t fund a Microsoft
stack? I\'d be curious to hear more about that.

- Doug

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Kym McNicholas TV Host, Tech Jounalist, Director of Extreme Tech Challenge, Host of KDOW Radio's NewFocus On Innovation

December 21st, 2012

We use iShowU

Also... I have an idea for anyone doing demos at CES...especially of tangible products.

Bring a flip video camera, a laptop, and lots of thumb drives.

When a reporter shows interest, show them a demo, explain to them how it works, then offer the ability for them to do their own demo and analysis on your flip cam (you just tape them explaining and showing our your product works and what they think, then upload the video quickly to your computer, and transfer it to a thumb drive to give them. It makes it easy for many bloggers to have their own on camera experience with the product that they will most certainly share!!!! You will also end up with lots of youtube and vimeo clips of these demos floating around :)

On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:22 PM, James B wrote:


December 22nd, 2012

I would say "play to your strengths". Which for me and mine, is .NET. If
you\'re on Microsoft tech, you might want to consider their
Microsoft-sponsored techstars accelerators, which will bring in investors
on demo day that are obviously Microsoft friendly:

Building on Azure?

Kinect had one in 2012, assume they\'ll have

For Windows Phone Apps you may find connections at their
one-week accelerator Labs:

Lastly, if you\'re on .NET and a new startup, you should be joining Bizspark
for free software/services the first few years. If you are on Azure, then
once you\'re Bizspark, you can apply for Bizspark Plus<>which gives you quite a bit of Azure hosting the first few years. If you\'re
interested in Plus, I can give you some contacts.

Bret Fisher, CEO and Co-Founder
cell 757-375-4433


December 21st, 2012

Yep, I\'ve done several. If we\'re doing mostly product-focused shots, I
really love Screenflow.

If it\'s more "editorial" with people talking, and cuts back to screenflow or
slides, etc., we\'ve used iMovie pretty effectively.

If you want something professional, I HIGHLY recommend Simplifilm. Tell
them I sent you! :)

Cynthia Schames
Cofounder, AbbeyPost

John Rodley Technical co-founder with exits

December 21st, 2012

Did anyone ever say to me personally "we won\'t fund you because you\'re a
microsoft shop"? No. I have had any number of meetings hang up on the
Microsoft stack for some awkward moments before proceeding on with some
amount of scribbling in notebooks. I\'ve never pitched a pure Microsoft
stack, only systems that had some amount of Microsoft in critical areas -
SQL Server as the DB or .NET Web Services fronting SQL Server. The LAMP
parts of the conversation always went pretty quickly and we always ended up
playing defense for the MS parts.

I don\'t particularly like the MS stack, so I\'m not the guy to make the case
for it. You can do a lot of things quickly with it, especially Web
Services. The case against it? Cost and the progression of cost as you
scale I think is one. The narrower and lower-ceilinged talent base you
have to draw from on that side is another. But I think their thinking is a
bit more simplistic and goes something like this:

- Open source is driving progress in the industry - if you\'re working in
foss you might be on the bleeding edge, if you\'re working in MS you\'re
probably not.
- The smart, innovative guys who can "make something from nothing" are
working in open source.
- The guys who need to buy something that\'s mostly already done for them
are working in Microsoft.

That said, I can dig up citations from among the many VC bloggers that
state baldly they won\'t talk to a MS shop. Search through Suster, Wilson,
Andreesen, Horowitz ...


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Douglas Tarr <>wrote:

Chris Robertson Technical Operations, DevOps, IT and all that jazz

December 21st, 2012

Sorry, they definitely fund other stuff but they will also fund companies
that are built exclusively on the MS stack (ditto with GC).

I agree with your statement that your stack won\'t make or break the
company, my point was just to illustrate that.


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Brendan F. Duffy <

David Crooke Serial entrepreneur and CTO

December 21st, 2012

Indeed ... I\'ve been faced with the opposite issue (open source fears from
investors attorneys) but I\'ve never heard of the opposite (except for
platform company funds, e.g. Oracle Ventures). Do tell.

When we were growing Convio, one of our main competitors had an absolutely
terrible mish-mash of ASP scripts by by way of a product, the other was a
kludge of AOLserver script, Oracle stored procedures and Perl. Only the
most sophisticated customers even cared.
On Dec 21, 2012 1:46 PM, "Douglas Tarr" <> wrote:

James Bond CTO at SupplyBetter

December 21st, 2012

We used Camtasia, mostly because we happened to have a copy. It\'s pretty
powerful/flexible, but not cheap ($299) and may be overkill for what you

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Cynthia Schames

John Rodley Technical co-founder with exits

December 21st, 2012

If I can find the anti-Microsoft cites I\'ll pass them along. It may be
that I\'m just bringing my anti-MS outlook to the table :)

From experience though, it\'s always harder to defend MS tech in a due


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Chris Robertson

John Rodley Technical co-founder with exits

December 21st, 2012

As I said, it\'s my experience, taking one of about ten billion paths
through this process and you really can\'t say it\'s not true. It\'s my
experience after all, not yours. The tech due diligence I\'ve been through
doesn\'t like Microsoft.


Brendan Duffy Product Manager

December 21st, 2012

Hey Chris,

I may have misinterpreted your last email, but are you saying that Sequoia
will only fund companies built on an MS stack? I\'m pretty sure you can look
through Sequoia\'s portfolio and find plenty of stuff that\'s not built on MS
(Instagram, Dropbox, etc.).

I\'m not bringing this up to be a pain in the ass. I think it illustrates
the point that the stack you choose to build on is not going to be make or
break you.

But I\'d love to read a strong argument to the contrary.

- Brendan

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Chris Robertson <