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PTSD of Nations Impacting Work Ethics and Culture

Natalya A Meyer Business with the heart. Trusted guide into new markets.

September 11th, 2019

I am convinced we all heard and analyzed PTSD for certain people, but have you thought that it might be an underlying cause of how the whole nations position themselves?

The reason for such thoughts was my trip to Ukraine, my home country. I came for a little vacation but somehow got into meeting business people and collecting projects to develop (some really great eco-saving ideas btw). But every time I would try to make an appointment or even confirm the place to meet, not to mention the deadline for something (sounds like a joke under the circumstances))), I could never get a straight answer or holding on to our agreement.

If you knew me, you could only imagine how frustrated I was)))
And I am not even talking about particular business terms to be put in writing...

Perhaps thanks to yoga and meditation training, the frustration stage passed very quickly and the curiosity took place. I started thinking of the people who I knew from a long time ago and how strange it was they could not keep simple promises. I knew they didn't do it on purpose. So, then somehow I remembered reading about PTSD in my kundalini yoga resources and conversations re war veterans with experienced teachers. It dawned on me that PTSD might be a state of the whole nation exposed to the circumstances. For a long time we, Ukrainians, were so busy investigating, proving, fighting and explaining to Russia and to the world what was going on, that we missed the point when "civil" people around the country became affected.

I am not claiming that I am an expert in PTSD but it is my intuition and a vague remembering of its characteristics that make me account the ambiguity, forgetfulness, uncertainty in everything as a result of constant fear and grief. Our conflicts are "frozen" but people are dying and its embedding into people's subconscious.

My question to you, dear CoFounders: have you ever gave it a thought as to PTSD for the nations or heard anything and how it impacts business relationships? Of course, I would love to do something about it, but I understand that it might be too big of a task. At least, we could bring some awareness.

So, here is a suggestion: the next time, before judging someone or getting frustrated like I did, remember that maybe this person just needs some understanding and the whole situation will change even for your business. There are some really talented people out there. You just have to know how to #connect, like with everything else in #life.



Paul Garcia marketing exec & business advisor

September 12th, 2019

Hi Nata,

On the scale you're discussing, it's not called PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder). It's most often called "culture" when the consciousness of a group as large as a nation has collectively changed. Many national stereotypes have developed from this about people from various countries without any consideration for the reasons the attitude developed. French people are labeled rude. Belgian people are labeled said to be polite to your face but vicious behind your back. Americans are labeled loud. Canadians are labeled polite. Russians are labeled scary. The list goes on.

I think your point is that in business you need to deal with individuals as such, but recognize that certain cultural patters may be present and affect how they behave.

David M

Last updated on September 13th, 2019

Natayla, PTSD is too narrow of a focus for most nations. In certain war torn countries, I do believe your point and evaluation for PTSD as a broad influence makes a lot of sense. If a great majority of an area or region is constantly in war or brutality, it makes sense that PTSD can play a huge role with the overall mental health. That is one reason in these areas you see destruction breeding more destruction. It is a vicious cycle.

The risk is to too broadly to asign PTSD. Generally the term should be reserved for extreme situations but what is extreme and how does it vary in trigger points with various individuals? Those levels will vary as well depending on the circumstances and individual's ability to process what he or she went through.

Psychological stimuli are all around us. Spend 5 hours watching violent, loud, fast action movies and then see how you feel as opposed to going to a peaceful park. There have been many studies that show the negative impact. Sadly, America mass produces and markets a lot of violent entertainment. That industry is also filled with the largest amount of hypocrites. They hate guns but most of them have made their fortune making guns and violence seem cool. Videogames...same thing. Several years ago, the "torture" genre crept into Hollywood. It is sick and twisted that the images many countries are forced to see, American filmmakers willingly make and try to sell as entertainment fun...perfect example Quintin Tarrantino..who is a hypocritical idiot and produces gory violent films. Saving Private Ryan violence is a different story.

Regardless...yes have compassion for people. BUT at the same time, business is business, and work is work. At some point you have to say "Everyone has something going on that is challenging. That is not an excuse to be rude, unproductive, ineffective..etc." In America, we have dangerously embraced a nonsensical PC culture where no one can criticize for anything. It is ridiculous. I admire your effort to evaluate PTSD. There does need to be more understanding of it where the PTSD is real and it is not just a cultural issue where someone is consuming unhealthy stimuli that makes that person perform poorly at work due to mental state.